Part 3 of #festivefeminism with Kelly

Kelly is a very special person. She’s my sisters best friend and we’ve all been through a lot together. She is like one of our family members and she will always be in our hearts. She is a feisty feminist like myself so I had to involve her in this festive feminism blog series.

Tell me, the moment that made you a feminist? 

When I was a child, I thought incorrectly, that Feminism was about putting females before males. As I grew older, I realized that myths like that one were very untrue. It’s hard to know when I became one, but I know that I realized that I was one (there was a period where I was one and did not know) was at University, while taking a Women and Gender Studies class. I shyly identified as a Feminist for a time before University, but the post-secondary study of Feminism as a school of thought really fortified and expanded it for me. It is at University that I learnt that Feminism is a vast web of studies, observations and movements, with many sub genres and loaded with highly sophisticated analyses. It was at this time that I was proud to be a Feminist, surrounded by people who took it seriously. In that environment, I came to understand it as my ‘normal’, as my ‘rational’ sense of the world. Studying about sexism also taught me more about how racism incredibly intertwined with it, making intersectional Feminism essential. Another factor of my realization as a Feminist, was being so damn pissed off by sexist bullshit so many damn times!

I personally find Guernsey very ‘backwards’ in terms of feminism etc, do you agree?

Yes, unfortunately. I have been surprised at how anti-feminist it is, actually. I feel like it’s a bad word here. There doesn’t seem to be a culture of fully understanding societal oppressions, whether sexist, racist, ableist, ageist and other. I’m gonna go ahead and say it: Guernsey is a wealthy, small island where most of us grow up with great privilege, making it easy to become sheltered from the world beyond and lack a sense of perspective on certain things. I’m of course not claiming this of all people on Guernsey. 

What do you think modern feminism is all about? 

The Feminism I think I’m living in now is about women and girls standing in their personal power, and not being afraid to fight for their position in the public sphere. It’s about not putting up with sexist, disrespectful shit whether at work, in relationships or walking down the street. It’s about a sense of community between females, which is greatly helped by social media and the internet. It’s about the right to CHOOSE who you are and what you do. Want to be a CEO? A stay-at-home mum? Porn star? Fucking go for it. Want to show off your body? Awesome. Don’t want to show off your body? Also awesome. Just do you! YOU define who you are. 

Modern Feminism is rejecting the idea that society gets to tell us what a woman should be.

Do you believe that sex work is valid work? 

Absolutely. One of the classes which left the biggest impression on me was about sex work. If we think a woman doesn’t have the right to enjoy her sexuality and use her physical resources for money, we are telling her that her sexuality is wrong and she doesn’t get to do what she wants with her body. This summed it up best for me: we sell the use of our bodies all the time, as a result, chefs get bad knees, plumbers get bad backs. It’s the same. Many sex workers consider that they are selling their time, not their body, and I think that is accurate, as they are choosing to use their bodies and time (just as chefs and plumbers do) to earn. Also, good sex work takes skill, so let’s not just view is as valid, but as skilled.

I am, however, very cognizant of the dangers present in the sex work industry. A huge amount of sex workers do not work consensually (yes, rape) and are controlled by abusers and pimps. I did some research into street-based sex work in a few cities across Canada. One of the biggest threats to the women working on the streets were the police sexually or verbally abusing them. Even the mere presence of police on the streets drives sex workers to work in less visible areas, making them more vulnerable to attack by the customers. Then there’s the porn industry. Porn is not inherently bad, it can be great. But so much of mainstream porn is built on a culture of abusing and degrading women as normal. That is not to kink-shame BDSM, which is very different and of course, valid. It is that there is a mentality of women being inherently seen as objects to be degraded, which is the problem. Fortunately, some create Feminist porn. Overall, sex work is valid, but the industry could be made a lot safer. 

Have you lost friends over feminism? 

Yes, when it was clear that those people wanted to prioritise their preference to be comfortably toxic over the well-being of others, and were committed to demonizing Feminism without trying to understand it.

Name one of your feminist icons? And why? 

bell hooks is awesome, Kim Anderson, and a few others. These are authors of works I studied. Honestly, anyone who is living their truth as a Feminist is an icon to me.  Anyone who is proud and won’t deny their values, even if they’re shy of who might not agree with them, gets a lot of respect from me. But, we also need to remember that our wellness comes first, you don’t have to fight every single battle. That’s been a hard one for me to learn.

How do you go about your day with feminist values? 

I just try to live in a sense of self-worth. Learning self-love is everything to me. I think it’s at the centre of our whole lives and goes hand-in-hand with Feminism. I just live as myself, knowing I am infinitely worthy, and being kind to myself at times when I forget. Sometimes having Feminist values is really difficult in a world which so misunderstands and demonizes Feminism. It can feel like a burden. But ultimately, it’s all been a great playground for me to practice being on my own team. 

Do you get along with people who have different political views to yours? 

This is a tricky one. Yes, I can get along with people who have different views than me, if their views are not too toxic and too present in our relationship. But if I’m honest, any toxic belief of theirs will bug me in the back of my mind. I’ve often tried to ‘teach’ and inform people Feminism values, but often it falls flat and I have to accept that the responsibility to learn is on the shoulders of the individual. Also, I allow myself to have friends or enjoy social situations regardless of views (unless they are just too bad) for my own well-being, as someone with a need for socializing. Although, I won’t make myself endure any toxic bullshit happening in my presence, and I will call people out to their face if they bring any sexist shit up. Ultimately, if I don’t know someone and they reveal themselves as sexist, racist or toxic in any other way, I pretty much write off the prospect of having a substantial relationship. There are too many people in the world to be around people who don’t get it, and I deserve more thansuperficial relationships. 

You used to live in Canada, do you think feminism is more popular over there or here in U.K.? 

I don’t feel even close to being informed enough to make any claims, but I’ll offer my personal experience. The 4 years I spent in Canada, I was at University, which is where I was surrounded by educated people who understood sexism and Feminism, so it’s hard for me to separate the country from the University. I did see a presence of anti-feminism outside of the university, and also within it at times, but I would anywhere. However, I have noticed that there is a culture of expressing oneself in North America, which lends itself to standing up against sexism. I also follow many Feminist social media platforms, most of which are North American. I’m sure there are many British ones as well, but I am not as well acquainted with them. Coming back to the U.K., I noticed the ‘banter’ was a bit more problematic than I had noticed when I was younger. As a Brit, I’ve got to say, we can be great but we can also be crass little bastards, and not always in a good way. I’ve noticed quite a bit of rape culture in British banter. 

Do the likes of Trump, put you off the idea that things are getting better? 

I believe that the journey of progress is a non-linear dance between conflicting ideas in the minds of individuals in communities, which creates each generation different from the one before it. Many have been exposed to Feminist arguments against sexism and are in a state of cognitive dissonance, not quite knowing or wanting to admit the reality of the shit which happens. Many friends have told me to my face that they want to bury their heads in the sand because it all feels too overwhelming, and I get that. However, I do think we have full responsibility over how we think and act, and to assess for ourselves the validity of our beliefs and the consequences of our behaviour on the world. I think Trump and all he stands for are the dying breaths of an old way of thinking. Just how an individual heals from trauma or maladaptive habits, the part of their identities which they are letting go of or re-defining in order to move on, will make desperate, last-effort attempts to maintain control of the mind. It’s a cycle. With the presence of Trump, we’ve had to rally together and become even more dedicated to our cause against oppression of all types. His presidency is helpful in that way. His boldness to say the unbelievably toxic things he says and do the horribly destructive things he does in government, makes problematic things so obvious that they cannot be reasonably denied. Yet, I recognize the privilege inherent in being able to suggest that positive things have come out of his presidency, such as our rebuttal, as many people have died, have been separated from their children and parents, and are actively suffering at his hands and as a result of oppression. The only reason I’m able to talk to you now about Feminism on this platform, is because I have the money for technologyand shelter (not to even mention the privilege of a University degree). There are so many who have so much less and have to deal with way, way more oppression than I ever will. I’m not going to pretend like I know if things are getting better for them. I have no fucking clue how hard it is to face racism, racist sexism, transphobia, homophobia, ableism, poverty and many other things. 

As simply as you can, describe what the gender pay gap means to you?

The gender pay gap is often misunderstood, as some think that because a man and a woman might be on the same wage while working at Starbucks, the gender pay gap doesn’t exist. It’s more complex than same pay for same work. There are still examples of women being paid less for the same work as a man. However, there are other factors which are not considered as much. The gender pay gap is often calculated on the average of wages between genders. It’s the overall average of women’s pay which is lower. This is due to women not being given as many high-powered, high-paying positions as men, due to many factors such as plain ol discrimination against women (labelling assertive qualities as bossy, or overall underestimating the capabilities of women) and also many girls being dis-incentivized to go into certain industries which are known as male-dominated. This is why it is so important to have female figures in all industries, to teach young girls that it is normal to be a girl and be an engineer. Another factor is that having children if often seen as a liability to some bosses, who choose to not award senior positions to women, as they anticipate them becoming pregnant, or having ‘motherly duties’. There are so many other reasons, like women expected to do the majority of the housework and caretaking for children which limits their time and energy available for their careers. The feminization of poverty, is another one. The term refers to how certain industries, such as garment-making, factory work and care-taking are dominated by females, especially in developing countries. These industries tend to be low –skilled and low-paid, and keep women trapped in a cycle of not having the work experience or skills to exit low-paid job sectors. This is prevalent in the Global South.

What are your thoughts on the term gender neutral? 

Gender is the role we play in society, based on what we think our biological sex means about us. So, gender is a totally made-up social construct. To me, gender neutral means things/people which do not subscribe to the idea of gender and to which/whom gender is irrelevant. And I love it. 

Do you shave or keep your body hair? 

I shave and wax, but I have had periods of time over the past year where I have purposefully not removed body hair in the mentality that I shouldn’t feel the need to. I told my boyfriend at the time that I might not remove my armpit hair for a while because I shouldn’t have to. He said that he agreed that I shouldn’t have to, but it would be weird for him (he made his displeasure very obvious) because he is so used to seeing women without armpit hair. I think that reveals a lot.

It’s almost impossible to not feel society’s pressures at some points in life. Don’t be hard on yourself if you find it challenging to resist the pressure to remove body hair. I remove it way less than I used to and I am far more comfortable with having it than I used to, as a by-product of making efforts to radically, unconditionally love myself. Now, I mainly shave/wax when I have something I don’t want hair for, or whenever I can be arsed (which is not often). If you want to shave on Monday and on Thursday you want to be natural, you do you. It’s always about our power to choose and to be kind to ourselves. 

If you could, what would you say to your younger self? 

Ahhhhhh, young Kelly. Stop dancing on that table in the club, you don’t look like J-Lo. Nah, just kidding WERK BITCH! ……Also, other people don’t have to agree with you or like you for you to be valid, right or worthy. Only your own opinion of yourself truly matters. Aaaand you’re gonna learn that the hard way. BUCKLE UP!

I wouldn’t change anything I’ve been through, because they all made me the woman I am today. And shit, I’m awesome. 

For any young women wanting to come out as feminists, what would you say to them?

Number 1, love yourself. Teach yourself that your time, mental space, energy and whatever else is infinitely precious. Don’t say yes to stuff you don’t want to say yes to, don’t waste your energy on toxic people and don’t guilt trip yourself. Be kind to yourself. Learn about healthy boundaries with others. Learn what true presence with yourself feels like. When you feel something, whatever it is, don’t reject it or punish yourself. Just be present, observe, and be there like a parent for a crying child. From this space, we learn our value, and we establish a space of inner peace, which we can tap into whenever we want to, even if some time it’s far harder than others to do so. This mentality is a fertile ground for learning, growth and supporting yourself and your rights. And, have FUN, be YOU. 

And girl, if you want to come out as a Feminist, there’s an army of women behind you who have gone through this moment that you are now. We are the woman who just walked past you, the girl you went to school with who you haven’t talked to for 3 years, the owner of your favourite café, the woman who stood up to that sexist boss and got sacked, the woman who reported, the woman who didn’t, the girl sat next to you on the bus who also feels that gut-wrenching feeling of being slut-shamed by her friends that day and knows that same anger you feel sometimes, that 90 year old woman who has watched it all for decades. We are here and I promise you’re not doing this alone.

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Oh hello, Turtle Bay!

“They’ve even put watermelon slices in our drinks mummy!” HUSH Florence! Act natural, complimentary meals happen all the time for us. (They really don’t) this was my (our) first ever complimentary meal, and MY GOD wasn’t it a good’n.

Now that I’m vegetarian, I usually struggle to pick something that I like or actually fancy eating. Turtle bay, have so many options to choose from. I went with the aubergine curry, with pita bread and sweet potato fries on the side. And I wish I could rewind time to eat it all again.

The cocktails are incredible. There are so many choices, and they aren’t over powering with an alcoholic taste. It’s a good blend.

Florence had the non alcoholic raspberry cocktail. She felt like a big girl, and it was nice for her to feel involved with the grown ups.

Our waitress Kate, was so efficient and very sweet. She made us all feel welcome and at ease. The atmosphere is child friendly, and there is a natural buzz around the restaurant, so if you have kids who are great at having tantrums (eye roll) then it won’t disrupt the other guests as it’s a perfect environment with no judgement around. Calming Caribbean music in the background and lots of different types of guests such as , young adults, families, groups of work colleagues and groups of friends, there’s something for everyone at turtle bay.

The portion sizing for the kids was really impressive. Both Florence and Rex went for the smaller sized plates, yet their meals were really generous. They had Pitta and dip for starters which is complimentary on their menu, and they loved it. The hamburger and chips got a thumbs up from Florence.

Turtle bay has been given a Christmas make over. With beautiful lights hung up around the restaurant. Even outside the restaurant, and the surrounding area, Winchester feels so Christmassy. It was such a lovely atmosphere and the perfect touch to a family meal out. We don’t go out for food in the evening, it’s quite stressful sometimes with all three children but we all really enjoyed ourselves. And I want to thank Turtle Bay Winchester restaurant, from the bottom of my heart. It was perfect.

Food 10/10

Service 10/10

Drinks 10/10

#FestiveFeminism part 2 with Lizzie 🖤

Lizzie and I bonded over feminism. She’s stuck up for me, and been a real sweetheart.

She’s passionate, talented, and fierce. My kind of gal.

Here’s #FestiveFeminism part 2 with the gorgeous Lizzie :

Would you say you’ve always been a feminist?

Absolutely. From the moment someone said boys could do more things than girls, i wanted to prove them wrong.

What’s your thoughts on celebrities coming out to the world, to say that they’re feminists?

it’s great, but it shouldn’t be. it should be a given that everyone wants equal rights.

Do you know a lot of feminists or do you feel like the odd one out?

i’m very lucky, i know a lot. i went to a girls school that encouraged us all to speak up and we’ve all realised the world isn’t always like that.

Who is your feminist icon?

Emma Thompson.

Is there anything with feminism that makes you question it?

The small things we fight over. Mansize tissues are so irrelevant when genital mutilation is still so rife – the priorities of some feminists are skewed.

What’s your favourite feminist song?

This sounds odd but i always loved “i don’t need a man” by the pussycat dolls growing up. belting out “i don’t need a man to make me feel complete” at 14 really reminded me of that!

Name a gender stereotype that you simply can’t tolerate?

that i make less money than my partner (i make more) that i should cook, that i’m dumber than my male equivalents. there are so many.

What sets your soul on fire? What are you most passionate about?

Music, singing. Being a girl that belts out the high notes – not playing an acoustic guitar like everyone expects

Do you think feminism is getting more popular?

i did, until trump got in. now it’s okay to think any minority is “less than”.

When you started your period, did you feel ashamed or did you embrace it?

I was so happy i’d caught up with my mates – but i lived with only my dad and it was awkward buying tampons initially. now he knows which brand i like if i need some urgently and i can tell him if i’ve got period pain and he’s fine. he’s the best. and i’m not embarrassed.

What’s your opinion on clothing brands currently putting the word ‘feminist’ all over their designs?

STOP. IT. particularly if those clothes are made in sweatshops where you don’t support human rights (which feminism is) and feminism is not a trend, it needs to be a constant.

Are you related to a feminist? If so who?

my dad, and my step mum is a die hard feminist. some other relations are very strong women who taught me but haven’t said the word “feminist” out and out to define themselves, they’re just fighters anyway.

Name a moment in your life that made you angry/hurt/frustrated with sexism?

when trump got in, i felt like i really mattered less than the men in the world and like no one was fighting with us. i wept. but there have been countless mind numbing things – a man, in the same role as me for the same time on the same money, getting worse feedback, telling me women belong in the kitchen. he got fired and i got promoted. doesn’t always work out in our favour though (frequently doesn’t)

What piece of advice would you give your younger self?

you’re stronger than you know and you can handle a hell of a lot on your own. keep proving boys wrong!

We all know that Feminism means wanting equality, but if you had to describe your own personal spin on it what would you say?

the journey the world needs to take so my future daughters can walk down an alley late at night and not be scared. so they’ll experience things with no more fear than my future sons.

Feminists connect with this legend :

Follow her on twitter : @LizzieArkell

Follow her blog : https://lizziearkell.com

And one more thing : Feminism is for life not just for Christmas.

Alex

#Festivefeminism part 1 :

I’ll be asking feminists near, far whoever and wherever they are! Some questions on feminism. For the countdown to Christmas. But just remember you guys :

feminism isn’t just for Christmas it’s for life!! 🙏🏻🖤

Here’s what my friend Alex has to say on the F word.

There is something special about being called Alex. We’ve hit it off big time because she’s an absolute gem. She’s dead funny, clever and charming. She’s also a super talented writer (pretty much the only stuff I read). If you don’t know her already (trust me you’re missing out) check out her twitter/website below!

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When did you become a feminist?

I think I’ve always been one. I really developed my understanding of feminism around the age of 20/21, when I studied my Masters degree. I wrote my dissertation on the linguistic portrayal of women in the media, using the feminist critique of language, and it’s always been something at the forefront of my mind really.

Was there anything in particular that made you one?

I believe that the natural inequality that coexists between boys and girls instilled it in me. Things are changing for the better, but when I was a kid, it was often the case that girls ‘couldn’t do’ certain things that boys could. And that unfairness always pissed me off.

Do you think feminism should be taught in schools?

I don’t see why not. Really what I’d like to be taught is a more overall underpinning of gender inequality and the history behind it. Kids are very sensitive and understanding of unfairness, and if we allow them to explore the issues in an age appropriate manner in schools, we can hope that the world will change as they grow into fairer, more well-rounded people than those of us who’ve gone before them.

Do you or would you like to raise your child with feminist values?

Absolutely. I encourage my daughter to do whatever she puts her mind to, and try to help her view the world without gender-bias towards certain items, toys, professions or even bloody colour schemes

What do you think the word ‘feminist’ means in this modern world?

I like to think it means someone who is able to view the full picture and speak up for the injustices that remain. However in reality it sometimes carries a bad reputation, thanks to some more controversial parts of the ideology and some of the more recent comments made by Germaine Greer, one of the most recognisable voices in the field. She’s come out with some utter shit lately, and that’s not done the ideas behind feminism any favours at all.

Did you ever think feminism was a bad thing?

No. I think the word feminism sometimes can be misused as a vehicle by people who are just driven to be militant, which is a bad thing. People who view feminism as an opportunity to maintain the system of ‘us’ and ‘them’ are part of the larger problem.

Do you think things are getting better or worse?

Better in some ways and worse in others. I think more women are proud to speak up for themselves than ever before, which is great. I also think that people are taking feminism more seriously, but also that some people treat it with greater contempt than ever before too.

Name something you wish for women all across the world?

I just wish we had a fair deal from the get go, right from being children, and that people on the whole would understand that that is all women want and deserve.

Who is your feminist icon?

I don’t think I have one, if I’m honest. My feminist icons are women who advocate change in a purposeful, intelligent way. Ones who try each day to make the world fairer.

Have you ever read a book on feminism? If so which?

I’ve read quite a few, mainly as part of my Masters study etc. I studied Applied Linguistics so media discourse around women is fascinating to me. If you can get a copy of The Feminist Critique Of Language, definitely do so.

Is the gender pay gap actually real?

Of course it is. It’s an absolute disgrace.

What do you think of the term ‘white feminism’ ?

I think if you put the term ‘white’ in front of any kind of belief system or ideology, you’re going to invoke negative feelings, and rightly so. Feminism has no colours, it’s something that anyone can be part of.

Are you proud to be a feminist?

Yes. As a woman, it’s part of who I am.

Can men really be feminists?

I believe so, on a certain level. However as empathetic as they may be, the truth of it is that men don’t experience the world in the same way that women do, and so there’s always going to be a lack of inherent understanding of our experience for them. Which is really hard for some people to get their head around, but it’s just a fact. I’ve got a lot of time for men who do promote feminism though, they’re helping the world be fairer for us and for our kids, and that’s ace.

The term ‘girl boss’ is it lame or cool?

On a personal level I have to say I find it awful. Soz! But, if it makes some women feel more empowered about their efforts then more power to them.

What are your thoughts on Kim Kardashian labelling herself a feminist?

I think she’s more than entitled to call herself whatever she wants. That’s the whole point, isn’t it?

What would you say to a young girl who is thinking about labelling herself a feminist?

Go for it. Be proud to be yourself and to fight for fairness and equality in this world. You’ve got a whole bunch of us behind you.

And what advice would you give to your younger self ?

Stop pissing about at university and train to be a journalist! Also, travel more, and don’t settle for anything less than whatever you actually want.

Tweet Alex at : @ar_mu

Website :

https://actualar.co.uk

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